12:28:46 [G] <70:Trilless>: is there not a way to change phpraid to accuratly reflect where we are going?
12:29:10 [G] <70:Gryzz>: does it matter where we go?
12:29:24 [G] <70:Shefki>: It matters to some of us what we bring supply wise.
12:29:28 [G] <70:Trilless>: when buying supplies it can
12:29:36 [G] <70:Kilsar>: syas in events forum i think
12:31:18 [G] <70:Trilless>: not seeing it Kil
12:31:27 [G] <70:Kilsar>: ill find it in a sec
12:31:51 [G] <70:Trilless>: ah it was en edit
12:31:53 [G] <70:Trilless>: nvm
12:31:54 [G] <40:Sianna>: I've given up on figuring out where we go. I just show up.
12:32:34 [G] <70:Gryzz>: i find it easiest to just be ready to raid everything
12:33:28 [G] <70:Trilless>: it also helps some of us that are new to figure out what we need to readup on
12:34:01 [G] <70:Shefki>: let's see we've got flasks that only work in some zones, potions that only work in some zones and I have to try and guess which role I'm going to be playing and  bring enough supplies for it becuase the supplies I use are entirely different.
12:34:13 [G] <70:Shefki>: So yes knowing in advance helps a lot, I realize that for some people it doesn't matter.
12:34:24 [G] <40:Sianna>: I agree with Shef on that.
12:34:45 [G] <70:Gryzz>: so have it all ready to go
12:35:05 [G] <70:Shefki>: That's easy for you to say.
12:35:20 [G] <70:Gryzz>: why? you think my list of consumables is smaller?
12:35:37 [G] <70:Shefki>: No your list of consumeables is static.
12:35:46 [G] <40:Sianna>: I doubt shefki has enough room in his bags for multiple instance consumables and all of his different sets of gear.
12:35:47 [G] <70:Gryzz>: it varies by zone
12:35:57 [G] <70:Trilless>: I'm just saying we are claiming we want to get focused people that are ready to go... there is some responsibility on the leaders part to set us up for success
12:36:18 [G] <70:Nikolaus>: Read the forums.
12:36:26 [G] <70:Trilless>: I DO read the forums
12:36:39 [G] <40:Sianna>: Forums are confusing. >.<
12:36:45 [G] <70:Nikolaus>: Then you would know what the agenda is, I made several edits and already have next weeks schedule posted.
12:36:55 [G] <70:Allk>: it just took us 36 min to capture one flag in wsg
12:37:00 [G] <70:Shefki>: Edits don't show up as changed threads.
12:37:01 [G] <70:Nikolaus>: wow Allk
12:37:15 [G] <70:Nikolaus>: Edits are made to stickies and announcements. Review em.
12:37:18 [G] <70:Shefki>: I'm not gonna read every thread to find your edits that you made without bumping the thread.
12:37:32 [G] <70:Nikolaus>: That's not my problem.
12:37:45 [G] <70:Nikolaus>: The schedule is up on phpRaid guys
12:37:48 [G] <70:Shefki>: It's not your problem that you're failing to communicate to the guild well?
12:37:48 [G] <70:Nikolaus>: It is different
12:37:57 [G] <70:Trilless>: maybe you could update the guild Motd to tell us what you changed
12:38:04 [G] <70:Nikolaus>: If you noticed the schedule is different then review the threads.
12:38:05 [G] <70:Trilless>: and the schedule says we are going to gruul today
12:38:20 [G] <70:Nikolaus>: I'm referring to NEXT weeks schedule Trill.
12:39:34 [G] <70:Trilless>: I appreciate that you posted it so early... I was referring to when changes are made in the middle of the week... is there not a way to adjust phpraid to show the changes?
12:40:01 [G] <70:Nikolaus>: Not without wiping all the sign ups.
12:40:35 [G] <70:Nikolaus>: We setup an agenda, our hands are if we don't have the personell or balance.
12:40:48 [G] <70:Nikolaus>: err hands are tied
12:41:03 [G] <70:Nikolaus>: So we adjust on the fly so that we actually do something productive
12:41:10 [G] <70:Shefki>: I don't think anyone is complaining about that.
12:41:28 [G] <70:Gryzz>: which is why were going to require everyone to be ready for any instance depsite whats scheduled
12:41:29 [G] <70:Shefki>: But when the agenda gets changed it'd be nice if we knew how that changes things for later in the week.
12:41:44 [G] <70:Trilless>: my issue is that we have known since Tuesday we were not likely going to gruul
12:41:59 [G] <70:Trilless>: so do we know where we are thinking of going?
12:42:15 [G] <70:Nikolaus>: Well, Gruul was taken down on Tuesday
12:42:24 [G] <70:Nikolaus>: Both groups got Prince on Thursday
12:42:35 [G] <70:Nikolaus>: Where else have we been working on?
12:43:15 [G] <70:Kilsar>: Oh, pick me pick me! /raises hand
12:43:20 [G] <70:Nikolaus>: KIL!
12:43:24 [G] <70:Kilsar>: VR?
12:43:28 [G] <70:Nikolaus>: You win the prize.
12:43:32 [G] <70:Gryzz>: zomg cookies for everyone
12:43:37 [G] <70:Trilless>: there is no need to treat people like idiots, I was asking a question about how we do things in an effort to maybe make a change that would benefit the group
12:43:38 [G] <70:Kilsar>: One mIllions golds
12:43:42 [G] <70:Nikolaus>: Threads were posted about optional kara bosses.
12:43:48 [G] <70:Shefki>: Gosh it would have been so hard to say "Sorry, PHPRaid doesn't let us do that, we're planning on doing VR tonight."
12:44:15 [G] <70:Trilless>: if its not possible all you had to say was that it would wipe sign ups.
12:45:11 [G] <70:Nikolaus>: If y'all want to provoke a debate, which Shefki, you know you do quite often, then don't play the victim when people are sarcastic back.
12:45:29 Allk has gone offline.
12:45:32 [G] <70:Trilless>: I was not trying to provoke a debate
12:45:43 [G] <70:Trilless>: and -I- am the one that asked the question
12:45:52 [G] <70:Shefki>: She asked a simple question, the response she got was filled with attitude as if it was a dumb question.
12:46:06 [G] <70:Shefki>: It's not a dumb question and there are useful reasons to ask.
12:47:27 [G] <70:Trilless>: since you didn't really answer the question and you made it seem like there was no reason for me to ask that, I, Shefki and Sianna all provided reasons
12:48:05 [G] <70:Trilless>: I just wanted to know if it was possible... 
12:48:08 [G] <70:Nikolaus>: Alright Alright Alright
12:48:27 [G] <70:Nikolaus>: You want to know if we can change the location of raids in phpRaid.
12:48:37 [G] <70:Trilless>: and you gave me an answer so I'm fine with that
12:48:56 [G] <70:Nikolaus>: Great. /end discussion.
12:49:54 [G] <70:Icemelt>: ....so...my ass is sweating.  anybody else? 
12:50:17 [G] <70:Nikolaus>: No, but I need a ciggerate, be back in a few.
12:50:45 [G] <70:Trilless>: tmi :X
12:51:06 [G] <70:Icemelt>: attempting to change the topic.
12:51:09 [G] <70:Icemelt>: :)
12:51:26 [G] <70:Trilless>: yeah I know... 
12:51:58 [G] <70:Icemelt>: it is hot and humid outside and is getting a little warmer inside.